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roxeteer said on November 19, 2006 09:16:
As you can see, we have changed the layout and switched into using Drupal as our backend system. There will probably be many small things that don't work (hopefully not any bigger ones). Tell us if you encounted any hickups. You can either discuss the issues in the discussion boards or send us feedback.
ally77 said on November 19, 2006 09:29:
Well I believe in being honest so this might not go down to well, but I simply don’t like it. I am already finding it hard to get around and the white background makes it hard to read stuff.
Like Sandyam said it just might take time to adjust to it although another forum I use changed recently and I adjusted to that right away…
It’s feels really cold at the moment, like the warmth has been sucked out of TDR!
JoyRidErno said on November 19, 2006 09:46:
Layout is lighter... code is what I like, but forum is not. The old one was bettter :)
jobarth said on November 19, 2006 09:54:
Why did you change the layout, it was perfect. Now it’s really cold, colourless und boring...
roxeteer (moderator) said on November 19, 2006 10:01:
The main reason for the change was that I built the old system back in 1999. I didn’t have enough time to fix the bugs and add missing features (mostly in the admin side), let alone keep the layout up-to-date. With a system built and maintained by someone else, like this Drupal, it’s easier to add new functionalities because you don’t have to worry about the framework.
tevensso (moderator) said on November 19, 2006 10:01:
Ha ha, I just knew it. Some are never pleased... :)
Mari said on November 19, 2006 10:04:
Hmm, forum is maybe better, but the frontpage isn’t. White colour is too official and boring, like some company’s intranet. Left side of the page looks really bad.
Mari said on November 19, 2006 10:06:
How can I edit my reply? Is it possible?
roxeteer’s blog looks much, much better, especially fonts on the link box are nice. Why don’t use that kind of like layout?
Breathe8 said on November 19, 2006 10:07:
Sorry but before this change everything was perfect, forum was well-arranged, perfect graphics, information about users, for example how many posts they have etc. Now it´s a really boring and cold...
Rox1_4ever said on November 19, 2006 10:22:
I like the forum but I want more colours. I loved the orange before becuse it was diffrent to many others sites and looked so warm.
ncurran said on November 19, 2006 10:41:
It loooks MUCH better. The old site looked very dated. This is much more slick and modern. I wouldve liked the addition of smilies to the forum but no big deal. Its looking great, well done!
RobS said on November 19, 2006 10:43:
hmmmm, i dunno... it could take a while to get used to this.
The layout of the old version was much easier to read, and as some people have said it seems a little “cold”. Maybe a few tweaks here and there would help. Can’t say what thought... yet
But as with anything new, in time you learn to live with it!.
ncurran said on November 19, 2006 10:45:
Just one small question. Has the ’Features’ section been abandoned? Also can you look at archived news articles? I cant find the link for either of these as there is only an option for ’Latest news’
rox-kuryliw said on November 19, 2006 11:09:
OW LORD THANK god the horrid orange has gone ! This is a lot more classy.
Zargo said on November 19, 2006 11:09:
Oh I sure hate it, but then I tend to be resistent to change in most cases.
Of course I’ll get used to it eventually, but i guess you don’t realise just how easy to use and well-constructed the old site was until it disapears.
ally77 said on November 19, 2006 11:14:
“tevensso said on November 19, 2006 12:01:
Ha ha, I just knew it. Some are never pleased... :)”
You see that is just annoying Thomas because it’s almost like you don’t like others expressing an opinion on the new layout of TDR!
Few missing things, maybe they will be fixed but no “edit your reply”
In people’s profiles you can’t view where they are from or there name or number of posts!
Chaghi said on November 19, 2006 11:16:
Congrats guys! I think you did the right move going with a system like Drupal, instead of “cooking” your own. To me, a proper search was the most important feature missing in the old TDR. So, thanks for the new search engine :)
A regards the layout... I think everyone will miss the orange, it was with us for so long, and it was like a kind of “trademark” of TDR. Something REALLY different to any other community site. But it’s good to change, and I’m sure is a matter of time to get used to it.
I do agree with people that says that the new layout is not as easy to read, though. I don’t know exactly why... but I also feel the same. And readability counts! Maybe the new layout/CSS needs some love in that department. But it’s not a big deal, either.
Judith (moderator) said on November 19, 2006 11:20:
We of course already expected some people not to like the new layout, we even made bets! (btw, Tev, you owe me one ;))
This is just natural, many people don’t like changes, and this change is quite drastic, specially taking into account the old design has been around for many years.. people got used to it..It was the same when we switched from the green-gray layout to the orange layout, most got used to it, as most will get used to this new design as well.
Drupal will make our lives easier too as admins/mods, and specially Visa’s.
To those who left constructive feedback: thanks :)
Thanks for all your work Visa!!!
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Marie Fredriksson Online
steven said on November 19, 2006 11:32:
My two cents worth...
It appears that the improvements (if any) are mainly intended for the TDR staff, which no doubt make it easier to administer the site.
I see very little improvement or new features for the readers.
Old TDR was a warm, inviting Roxette corner of the Internet.
New TDR is a barrenness white expense, which has lost it’s soul.
Visa, I’m a fan of your work, always have been, but I don’t like this - sorry.
imazombieinthem... said on November 19, 2006 11:37:
I don’t really like it, only because I’m not used to it yet :) The white is blinding me abit though.
How about the screen width? Seems it’s set up for fancy widescreen monitors only. The page is scrolling off the screen by 25% sideways for a standard monitor. Can you set it up so it detects you screen resolution and adjusts accordingly, like yahoo.
Mari said on November 19, 2006 11:42:
roxeteer wants our opinions, but tevensso makes fun about negative opinions...Sounds kinda arrogant!
So here’s the things which need some fixing.
- editing your posts
- profile
- boring frontpage (maybe some colors to frames or some fixing to “box” or fonts?)
tevensso (moderator) said on November 19, 2006 11:46:
“Features” is dead yes. :)
I’m sure Visa will add the “edit” to all posts eventually. It will make life easier for all of us.
Why am I not allowed to “make fun” of your comments? Are you children that can’t take it? Most of you have been aching to see this new TDR and now when you get it, you don’t like it. Of course I make fun of that.
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I have nothing further...
imazombieinthem... said on November 19, 2006 11:46:
where’s the edit option for your posts?
What is the favicon supposed to be??? ^^^^
Gatecrasher said on November 19, 2006 11:54:
Interesting use of Drupal, I’m using its core to deploy a global KM solution for my employer.
I’ve always found some of the more user friendly forum based solutions more appropriate for fan sites, such as Fusion or SMS. Drupal’s forum is notoriously inflexible and really requires integration of another product to make is a friendly and feature rich piece of dynamic content which will encourage users to visit regularly.
That said, Drupal is *extremely* powerful, and can do things which even some of the large vendors are not doing yet (hence my convincing my company to go open source and save a few hundred thousand pounds).
Perhaps you can look at some of the warmer themes for Drupal and see how you can use that here? It does seem very clinical and not terribly friendly. Even though I *know* what can be done with Drupal sites, my first impression here was one of sterility and coldness.
Drop me a line if you need a hand with anything, happy to help if I can.
Gatecrasher said on November 19, 2006 11:56:
The favicon is the default drupal logo, it’s the “Druplicon” :)
steven said on November 19, 2006 11:58:
“Why am I not allowed to “make fun” of your comments? Are you children that can’t take it?”
YOU certainly can’t!
When someone dares to mock you, out come the admin tools and the post disappears faster than it was posted.
Arrogant hypocrite.
Lantartida said on November 19, 2006 12:06:
I think I understand the reason for some changes. I’ve had a look (sharp) and it seems people can’t see the e-mail and then they can’t send archives to them. It is my first message so I don’t know if we can edit or not, but this can persuade people to share what they shouldn’t (??) and then change what they say in the message. I don’t know if this Smalltalk will be better (I think it won’t) but the news are worth so I will continue reading The Daily Roxette (THANKS TO THE TDR TEAM: YOU’RE MARVELOUS!!) and maybe only post more in other forum (runtoroxette).
Sincerely yours
pwbbounce (moderator) said on November 19, 2006 12:08:
Well, it’s certainly different!! It will take a while to get used to it I think!!
Well, the nice and friendly comments are out in force in here today aren’t they...
blunek said on November 19, 2006 12:13:
Since today I will change my default website, because this dreadful new design will definitely not cheer me up in the morning after turning my pc on. :0/
Sometimes it‘s not a good idea to replant an old tree...
sandyam said on November 19, 2006 09:24:
Sometimes changes are needed and I am sure you have a reason for doing it this way now but I already miss the ’old’ layout which was much more easier to overview, in my opinion.
Well, I am sure I will get used to it soon...
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